Wave as a newsplatform

In an experiment described on WaveOnBusiness, which deals with Wave in a publishing company. The idea of using Wave for publishers has apparently stretched even further. Why not use Google Wave as a news platform. It would be strange to use the term newspaper or newsletter, but newswave would be more appropriate term. Lets see if the term catches on.

Bjarne P Tveskov has started the first internet magazine, I have seen, called Bølgendk. The magazine is only in Danish, and you can find it hire. It is a summary of some news created for the last week and should be published weekly. The idea could also be relevant for any other niche marked you want to write about. It could be something in your local community or about your business passion.

Newswave could be used as a way to create/deliver local news for a small area. It would require some editors how could create and edit the initial comment, so you were sure to cover the most elementary. Then other users could create the missing pieces, so i could write about the project we are doing in the community or the result of the local football match.

The concept of having a place where all readers can comment on news is just interesting. Users can contribute to your news feeds to the ideas and get more feedback. Dependant of  you readers/contributors you will be able to create a comprehensive newswave .


One of the important concepts with a paper is to get readers, because then you can also sell ads. It is the same for web sites, the more readers you have the more you can make.

At the moment there is not a lot of users on wave, but the users are quite passionate about Wave and try to use it for different things. At the moment of writing there are 50 users on the current edition, which is probably not enough to have much revenue. If you get more involved it could probably be possible to support the Wave with ads.

When the next edition is created you also want to have the same 50 subscribers. So there should be developed a way to make sure all subscribers get the new newswave. This could probably be done using a robot.

Business could form for editing the waves and organize the way users can contribute to the news stories. So we can contenue to have local news and create application to support the way users are creating the content.

I’m looking forward to see if newswave will take off, and be the place to go for news on current events.

I’m also a blogger at WaveOnBusiness.

Using Groups in Google Wave

Using wave in an organization can be a little challenging, when you don’t have Google Wave for your domain. Or if you would like to arrange a party or just be a group together. There are no problems if you only need to use one Wave, then you don’t need to invite all other participants to the new wave.

Google as implemented a group features in Google Wave. The function is build on top of Google Groups, so you have to create a Google group for each group you have. I would guess that this structure will create many new Google Groups with out any content in, since they will just be used for provision.

To create a new group follow these steps.

  1. Create a Google Group on http://groups.google.com
  2. Add the Google email of the users you want to add to the group.
  3. Add the samplegroup@googlegroups.com to the contacts. Click the + sign and enter the group email. Just ignore the errors and press enter.
  4. Add the group to the current wave.

I have created a video showing how this works.

To see content from the group, just search for group:demogroup@googlegroups.com. This will give all waves containing the group, so you can see what is going on in the group. When you are added to any of the waves, you will see the content in your inbox. This way it is much easier to find the Waves you have commented on.

A small issue is the wave username does not always correspond to the gmail username. So you need to find the users gmail account instead of their wave accounts.

I would also hope there will be an easier way to manage the groups from inside Wave, so you could just drag the users up to to the place they are using.

Using Groups is defiantly a thing, which needs to be improved for enterprise users. It could be a feature of Wave for my domain. On Wave for my domain it would make sense to be able to uses the groups you can define in the administration. These groups are your mailing lists or organization structures, so it will be a much more interesting place to administrate the groups. That way you don’t need to provision any other place.

For more information on Groups check out this Wave where the solutions is described in more details with a good FAQ.

Attending conferences via Wave

I wrote about how Wave could be used for documenting conferences in this post. Unfortunately I was only able to write a little, because of a shaky Internet. And beeing offline does make it a bit more deficult to write in wave at the same time. I did write some notes from some keynotes and lectures, but there needs to be more people working on the wave at the same time, otherwise you could just as well use Evernote for the notes.


Since SAP Teched there has been two conferences for Enterprises/Wave with relevant content. The first was eComm in Amsterdam where the starting wave is this.
This starting wave is a index, contain basic information about the venue and a list of all the different session with waves. In the Waves it looks like one or two authers has written the main blip, while others have commented bellow. A wave form the event from the session “Why Should You Care About Google Wave?”, is dealing with Wave and is the most interesting.

The intro Blip is have not been touch, but a lot of people have commented on the wave. With this form of communication you get a lasting conversation, and are able to have a conversation about all the different areas covered. Presenters can also help sorting out some of the questions.

The other conference is the E2conf, which is currently taking place in San Fransisco. The main wave is this wave. The layout is almost the same. On some waves they have more tags concerning how has created the wave. The use of tags will in future make it easier to do research.

An example of a Wave from E2conf is the debate about Integrating Google Wave into the Enterprise. This has a main blip written by three authors. After the talk a Ben Kepes wrote about highlights from the talk at a blog with the same name. Using this form of communication will make it much easier for bloggers/reporters to capture everything and create their versions of the content.

I like being able to read what has been said in a presentation. That way I don’t have to see the presentation, if nothing new has happened. It will make it much easier to find the content worth looking into. Get the links showed on it.

The TEDxCopenhagen is currently running. They are writing in this wave in Danish. They are just using one wave, but the depth of the conference is probably not as big as for a 1 hour session. So each session has its own blip, where the comments are written in. It make it really easy to see what is live and who said what. But you cann’t have discussions about any items in this context.

It is interesting to see someone typing, a summery of what is going on live. With each of those waves you have someone to talk to, how is also interested in the topic and you can learn more from the sessions.You can also find pictures someone has taken, so you can illustrate your posts.

I hope there will be more waving from conferences, because it adds more content than you get from the tweets.

SAP riding the Google Wave

It has been interesting to see that SAP is working with Google Wave. SAP has been innovating but not all of the work has been publicized because it was difficult to find the correct format for publishing the research. Some of the results have probably been taken into SAP products, but it is probably very little.  The release of Gravity for Wave SAP has showed to the public that they know how to innovate.

In the Demo Jam at SAP Teched 09 in Vienna, Lars Rasmussen (Google Wave Team) and Alexander Dreiling (SAP) did a demo. They had 6 minutes to do the demo in. They first introduced Wave to thee audience and then they showed off Gravity. They show an extension of Gravity, where it was possible to see the execution of the process model. This model was driven by Business Objects Live Enterprise and was a dashboard, which shows how each step performs.

See the video by Dennis Howlett video of the event.

On a wednesday presentation, Alexander showed the next steps for the Wave integration. SAP is working on a tool to design some Gui screens to be used in the process. With a combination of these two tools all the business users can define their processes, build the user interfaces, run the processes and monitor the status. This will be very powerful to be able to do. The tools will target business users with limited IT skills and make them able to develop and run their own processes.

I was lucky to talk to Alexander Dreiling from SAP Labs in Brisbane, one of the people responsible for the Gravity. He said that SAP was trying to figure out what the community meant about Wave and if it was something that businesses want. Being a large organization, it was difficult to get some ideas into the market, if it should follow the normal release procedures. He talked about if an open source model could be used. Releasing the tool under some open source license would make it possible to get the tool into the market much faster and solve some of the support problems. SAP would like to get much more feedback and a faster development cycle.

Before Gravity could be released it had to undergo a rewrite to fix some of the bugs and make the code more maintainable. Alexander also talked about porting Gravity into Flex to have a more stable foundation to use for Wave development. Google Web Tool kit had some limitations.

I was not sure about the status of two other tools was in the development process. A screen capture will be created soon, which demonstrates one or both of the tools. I’m looking forward to see what tools is cable of and it they will be interesting for organizations. It will also be interesting if SAP can create a business model for the tools.

Talking about SAP it is interesting we created a tool that will allow you to test your SAP PI/PO system much faster than other tools so you can automize the tests on the things you are dealing with.

Ontologies And Tags

I was recently a speaker at a librarian union, where persons brought up the tagging functionality as important for users. Some saw their own role with Wave as someone who had to perform work with helping users create ontologies or taxonomies for the data stored in the wave. This made me think a little more about how the tags in Wave can be applied and the reasons to do it.

Source:  http://www.labnol.org/internet/google-on-business-card/6991/
Source: http://www.labnol.org/internet/google-on-business-card/6991/

Taxonomy is the practice and science of classification. Tags can be found in almost any Web 2.0 application, and is a way to organize data into some more user friendly categories. Tagging can be done by the user who submitted the content or by anyone who has access to seeing the data.

Source: http://www.google-success.com/
Source: http://www.google-success.com/

While people use tags, it just takes up extra time when browsing. According to Gene Smith in Taxonomy of tagging systems , tags are used to help with:
1. Future Retrieval – marking something so it can found later (aka refindability)
2. Contribution and sharing – adding tags for the “value of known or unkown audiences”
3. Attract Attention – “to get people to look one’s own resources”
4. Play and Competition – formally in the ESP Game, informally in tags like squaredcircle (over 40,000 photos!) and sometaithurts
5. Self Presentation – “to write a user’s own identity into the system as a way of leaving their mark on a particular resource”
6. Opinion Expression – making value judgements, e.g. bullshit

All these points make sense from a business perspective, where we want more structure of the data.
If the user cannot find the document fast, it actually does not make a lot of sense in to create it in the first place. Then the information will only stay within the person(s) head, who created the content in the first place. This might be correct in some instance where you just want to create some feedback and create a decision on something. If the content is something, which needs to be published, it does make sense to organize it, so it is easier to find for other people.

I also think attracting attention is interesting, and something which underline the statement above. If you can get people attention and show you have created something useful, you will be seen more as a person who is useful for the organization. This has also something to do with self presentation, where the individual has the power to learn information.

There are some content where tags are unnecessary, because it does not fulfill the properties above. That will be a natural behavior, it also says something about that the content is not worth anything for someone else. Content without any tags can then be prioritized lowest for the voting principle.

A problem with tags is:
“Two people choose the same main key word for a single well known object less than 20% of the time.” Study from 1983 quote by Joseph A. Busch from www.taxonomystrategies.com.
This is an old study, but I don’t think that much have changed in the field. So I would guess this still to be valid. But it shows that we need to use more than just one tag, to make it much easier for people to see the same information.

It would be useful for organizations to teach about how they want to use tags. Much of the tagging should be self explanatory, so new employees can use it. I think it can be allowed to use a more specific organization taxonomy. I also think that giving people some education in how they can best create tags will make it much easier for them to find the content.
The problem without strict control of the tagging, will mean that people are less inclined to use the ideas and just skip tagging.

For organizations it will make sense to use some of the knowledge that the libaryans already has learned the hard way. They should just somehow be able to teach the other on how we can implement tags our self. It will probably be different to use tagging in Wave than in other applications, but the systems can be adopted.